DBLoss and DiceLoss

[cem-sirin]

Regarding the modules of DBLoss I have several questions and it would be great to know the reasoning behind some of the decisions.

1. DiceLoss Calculation:

In the script ppocr/losses/det_basic_loss.py the union is calculated as below:

union = paddle.sum(pred * mask) + paddle.sum(gt * mask) + self.eps

Shouldn't it be:
union = paddle.sum(pred * gt * mask) + self.eps

2. The decision to use DiceLoss for both shrink and binary maps

In contrast to the paper (using BCELoss), you have decided to use DiceLoss for both the shrink and binary maps (based on the config files I checked. I've seen other libraries also using for the binary maps, though not for the shrink. It would help a lot if you could give some insight into these decisions.

[GreatV]

Answer to Your Questions Regarding DBLoss and DiceLoss:

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1. DiceLoss Calculation (Union Term):

In ppocr/losses/det_basic_loss.py, the union term is calculated as:

union = paddle.sum(pred * mask) + paddle.sum(gt * mask) + self.eps

You questioned whether it should instead be:

union = paddle.sum(pred * gt * mask) + self.eps

Explanation:

The key difference here lies in the intended purpose of the union term in the Dice Loss. Let's break it down:

1. Current Implementation:

   • paddle.sum(pred * mask) computes the weighted sum of predicted values where the mask is applied.
   • paddle.sum(gt * mask) computes the weighted sum of ground truth values where the mask is applied.
   • These two terms are added together and a small epsilon (self.eps) is included to avoid division by zero.

   This approach ensures that the union term considers all positive areas weighted by the mask, regardless of whether the predictions and ground truths overlap.

2. Your Suggested Change:

   • paddle.sum(pred * gt * mask) computes the weighted sum of the intersection of predicted and ground truth values where the mask is applied.

   While this is valid in some contexts, it would make the union term an intersection-like calculation, which deviates from the typical Dice Loss formula. Dice Loss relies on the separate sums of predictions and ground truths (weighted by the mask) to calculate the union.

Why the Current Implementation Is Correct:

The current implementation aligns with the standard Dice Loss formula, which calculates the union as the sum of individual predictions and ground truths (weighted by the mask), not their intersection. If only the intersection is used, it could lead to an incorrect loss calculation.

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2. Using DiceLoss for Both Shrink and Binary Maps:

It is true that the original Differentiable Binarization (DB) paper used Binary Cross-Entropy Loss (BCELoss) for the binary maps, while the implementation in PaddleOCR uses DiceLoss for both the shrink and binary maps.

Reasoning Behind This Decision:

1. Handling Imbalanced Data:

   • Dice Loss is well-suited for handling imbalanced data, especially in scenarios where the positive regions (text areas in OCR) are much smaller than the background.
   • By focusing on the overlap between predicted and ground truth regions, Dice Loss inherently emphasizes the positive regions, which is critical for both the shrink and binary maps in text detection.

2. Consistency Across Maps:

   • Using Dice Loss for both maps simplifies the loss calculation pipeline, as the same loss function can be applied consistently. This reduces the need for additional parameters and complexity in the configuration.

3. Empirical Results:

   • While the original paper used BCELoss for the binary maps, many implementations (as you've noticed in other libraries) have switched to Dice Loss for binary maps due to better performance observed during experiments. PaddleOCR likely made this change based on empirical evidence that Dice Loss performs better in their implementation.

4. Masking in Dice Loss:

   • By using the mask during Dice Loss calculation (in both shrink and binary maps), the training focuses on regions of interest, further improving the robustness of the model.

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Key Insights and Related Discussion:

• In the discussion on DistillationDilaDBLoss, the main focus is on parameter inheritance and initialization in DistillationDilaDBLoss. However, it is worth noting that the DBLoss class itself is flexible in its loss types (e.g., it includes DiceLoss, MaskL1Loss, and BalanceLoss for flexibility).

• The decision to use DiceLoss for both the shrink and binary maps aligns with the modularity and generalization goals of PaddleOCR's loss functions. By allowing the loss type to be configurable, PaddleOCR supports experimentation with alternatives like BCELoss if needed.

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Conclusion:

1. DiceLoss Calculation: The current implementation of the union term in ppocr/losses/det_basic_loss.py is correct and adheres to the standard Dice Loss formula. Your suggested alternative would incorrectly calculate the union as an intersection-like term.

2. Using DiceLoss for Both Maps: The decision to use DiceLoss for both shrink and binary maps in PaddleOCR is likely based on its superior handling of imbalanced data, empirical performance improvements, and simplification of the loss pipeline. While the original DB paper used BCELoss for binary maps, DiceLoss has become a preferred choice in many modern implementations.

Let me know if you need further clarification!

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[cem-sirin]

Sorry, I had a typo. The alternative would be:

union = paddle.sum((pred + gt) * mask) + self.eps